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  • isvarahparamahkrsnah

    isvarahparamahkrsnah 3:54 pm on November 10, 2020 Permalink | Reply
    Tags: argument, , facts, , Pratik, reply, standup, Surleen Kaur, truth   

    Stating The Facts 

    Some Indian guy went on my blog and posted an article beneath my article about Surleen Kaur and the ISKCON hypocrisy.
    Clearly this guy was irked by a lot of the facts that I’d stated and he was trying to downplay them.
    I’m going to make a few comments here.

    You appear to profess yourself as a scholar of ISKCON’s philosophy and spiritual teachings; I wish you had the same scholarship on the constitutional rights guaranteed to every Indian.

    I don’t think I ever claimed myself to be a scholar.
    Quite frankly, I don’t care about the constitutional rights of people in India.
    India is a country where rapists go unpunished by the legal system for several years at a time. India is the country where a woman who was raped and killed was cremated in a farm in the middle of the night BY POLICEMEN while her family members were locked in the house BY POLICEMEN.

    You talk of the liberal value that guarantees oneself the right to speak and express freely under Article 19, Clause (1a) of the Indian constitution…

    Where? Where did I mention the Indian constitution in my article?
    This guy, let me get his name now – oooooh yes! We’re going deep in there now! This guy named Pratik thinks I’m an Indian living in India who is governed by the Indian constitution. Therefore he thinks I give a crap about his Indian constitution.

    Don’t you think such dim-witted blabber breaches the constitutional rights of a believer and, in turn, disrupts social harmony? If not, then either you are a hypocrite yourself, or you just don’t understand the law in its entirety.

    Me? A hypocrite? ohoho! ohohohoho ya yeet! You must’ve confused me with one of your corporate ISKCON gurus.
    Here’s the thing about the law – I don’t give a crap about the law. I’m an anarchist. And since you seem to be fairly aquainted with ISKCON to write such a long ass article beneath my article, I’ll have you know that the laws in Kali Yuga are written by sudras and enforced by sudras. They don’t mean jack.
    There’s only one law around here – My law. And my law states that you’re a criminal for opposing my facts with useless arguments. Therefore these comments will now be published in a separate article just for your sake.

    Why shall a comedian’s right to freedom of speech and being offensive outclass a religious person’s right to get offended?

    As a religious person, I did not find Surleen’s joke offensive.
    In your case, you’re making arguments as a religious person who wants to hide the facts under the rug because if everyone knows about it, people will stop giving donations and joining your gestapo movement.

    Now, let’s just answer a few questions raised by you and invalidate your baseless arguments one by one:

    What’d I just say? FACTS. I stated the facts. You viewed them as baseless arguments because you clearly aren’t smart enough to distinguish facts from fiction.

    1.You ask, “And why would anyone be offended when they are nowhere close to even being members of a religious organization?”
    Ans: FYI – The person who has intended to take legal action is a devout ISKCON member, Radharamn Das, Vice-president, ISKCON, West Bengal.

    Boo hoo! I wrote this article to comment on the multitudes of Indians who were crying and whining about it on the internet.

    2. You say, “Standup comedy is about delivering blunt truths in the form of witty insults.
    Nobody else speaks the truth anymore. Not the politicians, not the government, not the teachers, not even the religious people.”
    Counter – If I were to believe that you and your beloved comedians speak the truth, then I rather need to disown the India’s constitution and surrender unto you and your will. I just don’t understand why anyone would think that he has got a monopoly over the truth. It’s for the courts to decide what’s the truth and what’s not, and we have a due legal process for that.

    Please do! Me and my will have more sense than your Indian constitution.
    The truth is universal. When I speak the truth, I’m speaking for the entire human species. That’s how truth works.
    The courts? What courts?
    Anarchists don’t give two craps about the courts.
    The due legal process is flawed. Where’s the due legal process for all the rapists in India? This fool wants to talk about due legal process for a comedian who cracked a joke about religion.
    This is why India is a crappy country.

    Counter – You claimed that you are an ISKCON follower for two decades and a scholar of its literature. Now, I have reasonable facts to doubt your claims. … To me, you come across as a self-proclaimed ISKCON scholar who’s oblivious to a lot of facts about its history … I don’t know what books you are reading, but I, for one, can assure you that they are certainly not in correspondence with ISKCON’s teachings.

    I’m not just a follower. I served in the altar for about 3 years when I was just a teenager.
    That’s right! I was helping the pujari do the night dressing every single evening. And I’ve done numerous services that I don’t need to tell you.
    You don’t have reasonable facts. You’ve got unreasonable nuts. And I’ve got a good mind to come stomping.
    I never proclaimed to be an ISKCON scholar. I’m just the guy with the balls to state the facts about the organization without licking boots and being a yes-man.
    You know absolutely nothing about me. Not that I’d want to tell you anything about me either. You’re irrelevant. You’re a nobody.

    The books I’m reading currently are Srimad Bhagavatam and Bhagavad Gita As It Is – both translated by His Divine Grace A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada.
    Of course they’re not in correspondence with ISKCON’s teachings. Do people in ISKCON read Srila Prabhupada’s books any more? Or do they just go out and shove them into people’s faces and force them to buy them?
    So if we are going to discuss ISKCON’s teachings, then clearly they’ve come up with their own versions of teachings which include silencing the truth and posting articles with useless arguments beneath articles stating the facts.

    Counter – The one thing that Srila Prabhupada and everyone in the Gaudiya Vaishnavism lineage emphasized before leaving this material world was to propagate the philosophy of the Hare Krishna movement and share this eternal love of God with others through the distribution of books, Sunday feasts, and Sankirtan. On the one hand, you totally disregard that core concept of this religious congregation; on the other hand, you quote Srila Prabhupada on how he asked his disciples not to engage in any mundane activities. At this point, I really need to doubt your credibility as a Hare Krishna.

    The core concept is flawed in it’s implementation.
    Book distributors, even in the early 80’s, used unfavorable and sometimes illegal methods to sell books. They just wanted to get the books out by any means. I don’t think that’s what Srila Prabhupada had in mind. If you forcefully push people to buy your books, you’re ruining the image of the very organization you’re trying to advocate.
    Is it just me or are some idiots in ISKCON too dumb to understand the basics?
    Sankirtana hasn’t been happening since Srila Prabhupada’s disappearance.
    Back in the early days, devotees used to go out for Harinama Sankirtana every single day!
    Has that been happening over the last two decades? Absolutely not! Most temples haven’t had Harinama Sankirtana in years. The only Harinama they’ve had is during Rath Yatra festivals.
    And since you’re in India, I’ll have you know that ISKCON temples in the rest of the world have deteriorated even faster than ISKCON in India.
    You’re talking about Sankirtana – many temples don’t even have someone to sing Gaura aarti in the evening. That’s the state of ISKCON for the past few years. And I know that because I’ve sang aartis by myself for several weeks on a stretch.

    I don’t need to prove my credibility to you. The facts have been stated. You’re the only one who had a problem with them.
    Matter of fact, you should be the one proving your credibility to me and the rest of the internet. Who in the blue hell are you?

    Counter – You premised your entire argument insinuating that because some leaders of ISKCON were caught and have admitted to watching porn, therefore, the entire ISKCON community shall not get offended by the misrepresentation and stigmatization of its congregation by these so-called veracious, unerring, and infallible comedians. Your argument is essentially based on a hasty generalization, and therefore, it is an informal logical fallacy because it has got a reasoning error and lacks logical consistency.

    If I’m not offended by the truth, why are you offended? Are you a more credible congregation member than me? I don’t think so!
    I’m not arguing. You’re the one having arguments with me!
    I’m stating facts backed by sound logic.
    You’re the one with reasoning error because your mind has been clouded by the gestapo ideology of censoring the truth.

    If the freedom of speech is what that matters to these comedians, then why make jokes disproportionately targeting a particular sect or religion?

    You clearly don’t watch standup comedy at all.
    There’s jokes about every religious sect by various standup comedians.
    Surleen cracked the ISKCON joke because she’s an Indian.
    I bet if she cracked a joke about Catholic priests doing what Kirtanananda Swami did, you wouldn’t have a problem with that, now would you?

    I don’t care personally what these ignorants have to say in their capacity as long as it’s a private conversation. However, I strongly object to them using social platforms to stigmatize a sect in the public domain.

    Well well well, we’ve got another gestapo officer here.
    You should get a medal of honor from the GBC and promoted to a high ranking management position.

    By the way, have you met Hanuman Das? He spends a lot more time exposing ISKCON than I do.
    I’d love to see you try and intimidate him.

    By the way, Internet sources does not contain first-hand information. Therefore, they should be treated with a certain degree of scrutiny and distrust. It might look credible on the face of it but it could be misleading and spurious too.

    I don’t know what your sources are, but I’m sure they all come from ISKCON Communications office.

    My sources are very credible.
    I am also very credible.
    Welcome to the uncensored internet, where the truth can’t be hidden and the facts are published regardless of the crying whining idiots.

    However, you seem to turn a blind eye towards a religious person’s right to get offended under Article 25 of the constitution and Section 295 (a) of the IPC.

    I don’t think your constitution, articles and sections will be able to protect your rights here.
    If I wasn’t so busy right now, I’d push a dozen articles detailing the nonsense going on in ISKCON right now.
    But I have neither the interest nor the time to pursue such a useless endeavor.

    Blasphemy is a criminal offense in India punishable either with imprisonment for a term that may extend to three years or with a fine or both.

    Unfortunately, India doesn’t have that jurisdiction with the rest of the world.
    Pretty soon, I may join Hanuman Das and host a similar website just to piss you off.

    Btw, what’s the punishment for censoring the truth and suppressing obvious facts by a bunch of sudras in a gestapo movement?
    I’ll be sure to look it up in my book of Canakya Niti.

    I hope you will do a better research next time before putting forward arguments full of fallacies.

    I hope you’re ready for disappointment.
    ‘Cause I’m just getting started.

  • isvarahparamahkrsnah

    isvarahparamahkrsnah 6:06 am on August 31, 2020 Permalink | Reply
    Tags: Bhagavad Gita As It Is, , facts, problems, reality, solutions, , suffering, Vedas, wisdom   


    My grandfather passed away the day before Radhastami.
    When I heard he was seeing the Yamadutas, I thought they’d toy around with him for 2 weeks before snatching his soul away.
    So when he died just two days after my prediction, I was a little surprised.
    We all knew his time had come; we just didn’t know exactly when.

    Now this article will include some fundamental religious beliefs and teachings from the Vedas. So if you’re an atheist or nonbeliever, skip this one.

    The Lord states in the Bhagavad Gita As It Is that we are souls. We are not this human material bodies.
    Our identification with the gross material bodies is the cause of suffering and illusion under the three modes of material nature.

    The Lord states that just like a person changes clothes from dress to another, the soul changes bodies from one form to another. As such, there is no cause for lamentation.

    Furthermore, The Lord states that the soul is indestructible. The soul can neither be destroyed by fire or air or water or earth or ether. The soul cannot be destroyed by any weapons.

    So why should a person lament when his time arrives? Why should a person fear death?
    Death is but a process by which a person discards his old body and attains a new one.

    Due to the influence of the age of Kali, most people cannot understand this simple concept due to their ignorance.
    And therefore, they are always hankering after material things and trying to satisfy the body.

    A wise man knows to not mourn the dead, as the soul never dies.

    When a person dies, his body stays right here, in front of all his family members and friends and relatives. The body is right there, in front of their eyes.
    So who do they cry about? “Oh! He has left us! He has left us!”
    Who has left them? The body of the deceased is right in front of them.
    Who are they lamenting for?
    What are they grieving for?
    It is the soul. The soul is the driver of the body. The material body is just like a car. Without the driver, a car is nonfunctional.

    The material body is made up of matter. Matter has no life. Matter has no consciousness. Matter is useless.

    The soul is important. The soul needs nourishment.
    Without spiritual cultivation, one cannot satisfy the soul. And if the soul is not satisfied, one can never be happy.
    This point can be proven by all the rich and wealthy, by the famous and popular, by the beautiful and handsome, by the intelligent and the foolish – no one is really happy regardless of how rich they are, or how beautiful they are, or how smart they are, or how famous they are… If a person does not practice spiritual life, they can never be happy.

    Everyone in this material world is hankering after material things. Due to their ignorance, they think that by acquiring the said material things, they will become happy. But, they are never truly happy.
    Material happiness is fickle and temporary.

    A person will always experience cycles of happiness and distress, heat and cold, pain and pleasure and so on.
    This material world is full of dualities. And one should remain equivocal and undisturbed by the material dualities.
    Only then, can one practice devotional service and become happy.

    Anyway, my grandfather’s dead. I didn’t attend his funeral due to the Covid-19 pandemic. I figured if there were too many people at the funeral, it would be quite risky.

    Am I sad that he’s dead? No. Am I sorry he’s dead? No. Do I feel any pain or grief caused by his death? No.
    I am quite unaffected by his death.
    On the contrary, I was angered by the timing of his death as it would mean that I could neither go to the temple nor perform deity worship at home for the next 2 weeks.

    I wasn’t close to the old man. I knew nothing about him and he knew very little about me.
    And that’s my relationship with all my family members and relatives.

    Material detachment is very important for spiritual growth and understanding. I’ve been lucky enough to be able to remain detached to most of the material things.

    One has to understand that when one dies, everything they have a relation to in this world will be left behind.
    You were born naked, without any material possessions, and you will leave this world the same way.
    Nothing in this world matters when death arrives – not your family, not your wife and lovers, not your children and grandchildren, not your money and jewellery, not your bank accounts and business shares, not your cars and land, not your house and TV – you will leave everything behind.

    At the time of death, it doesn’t matter if you’re beautiful or ugly, educated or illiterate, rich or poor, kind or selfish – none of your material qualities and qualifications matter.
    The only thing that’s worth something is your spiritual life. The only thing that’ll save you from the Yamadutas is your devotional life.
    Unless one remembers The Lord, has faith in the Lord and has led a virtuous pious life in the service of the Lord, one is sure to see the Yamadutas at the time of his death.

    So, the question is, how much preparation have you made for death?
    We all know we’re going to die one day; we just don’t know when.
    So, instead of hankering after material possession and pleasures, we should be focusing our time on the service of the Lord.

    A wise man knows that hankering after material pleasures is a waste of time.
    The human body is like a cage, and the soul is like the bird inside the cage.
    Instead of pampering the cage, a wise man knows to feed the bird inside the cage.
    Then he will become happy.

    Hundreds and thousands of people die every single day in the material world.
    Yet the rest of the population continues to hanker after sense enjoyment without any thoughts about their own fate.

    It is time to wake up. It is time to understand and realize one’s true position and identity in this material manifestation. It is time to search out for the real knowledge of the Vedas. It is time to make the best out of this human form of life as it is the only chance that we have to get out of the cycle of birth, death, old age and disease.

    Otherwise, people will continue to go through life after life; as cats, dogs, hogs, trees and fish. And they will continue to suffer in this material world lifetime after lifetime.

    I hope the readers of this article will take some time to ponder on it’s contents. This is a rare case where I’ve discussed the reality of this material world and the practical understanding and solution to our problems.

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