You Can’t Polish A Turd! The Arizona State University Police Dept’s Innexcusable Record of Failure on Sexual Crimes, The latest feint from the Arizona State University Michael Crow Administration!

What prompted the Arizona State University administration to goad it’s Police Department to start a public relations campaign aimed at making it appear it cares about Sexual Assault Crimes? Maybe the fact it’s been under investigation by the federal government for doing such a lousy job on the issue since 2012?

The most ironic thing was on a Monday recently when a 261 (police code for sexual assault case) walked into the Arizona State University Police Department lobby located at 325 E Apache Ave and was turned away by an officer wearing this same patch! A sexual assault victim was turned away during Sex Assault Awareness Month. Way to go ASUPD! 

Think about this for a moment, how many universities have sizable groups organized against them because of how poorly they have handled sexual assaults for years and years? The Arizona State University has Sun Devils Against Sexual Assault, but we can’t seem to find another university where another group exists. That’s a big fat clue about how bad the problem is at the Arizona State University!

https://sundevilsagainstsexualassault.wordpress.com/

Even CNN has featured the ARIZONA STATE UNIVERSITY RAPE FRIENDLY CULTURE in a CNN film titled THE HUNTING GROUND

https://youtu.be/GBNHGi36nlM

“I thought if I told [ASU administrators] they would take action, but the only action they took was against me.” – SDASA founder Jasmine Lester, The Hunting Ground

Here are some questions you should be asking yourself if you or a family member is planning on attending the Arizona State University. How would you feel if your child is sexually assaulted and…

  1. …the Arizona State University police department never even bothered to submit her case to the county attorney for prosecution?
  2. …you discover the DNA collected sat in an evidence locker for years and was never submitted to the state police lab for processing?
  3. …the University fails to discipline or hold accountable people who are guilty of the crime or an accessory to the crime?
  4. …the University administration takes action, but against the victim, to keep them from getting information on their case, to keep them quiet.
  5. …because the criminal who committed the crime is a faculty member or a part of athletics, they are protected by the University administration and the neutered ASUPD does nothing for them but make excuses.
  6. …you find out the Federal Government has been investigating the Arizona State University since 2012 on the issue that they are putting a huge public relations effort into.
  7. …you find out that the detectives have had no formal detective training on sexual assaults and were “winging” it without doing many of the professional standard investigative practices common throughout the country.
  8. …you go to the Arizona State University Title IX Coordinator only to discover they are not there for you, they are an agent whose sole purpose is to protect the university from liability by making you go away and covering for the institution. Example: Kamala Green, the Title IX Coordinator who mishandled sexual violence complaints against Barrett professors, was replaced by Jodi Preudhomme, who previously served on ASU’s legal team defending ASU against rape victims in at least three Title IX lawsuits.
  9. …you discover that the Arizona State University Police Department hires a former city detective, a specialist on sexual assaults and another officer with significant experience on the subject only to exclude them from detectives for political favorites who have virtually no experience with the subject and some experience sexually harassing other police employees as a junior supervisor.
  10. …you discover a rape victim came into the lobby of the Arizona State University Police Department, the people managing your case, and they were turned away. Can you imagine how they felt? Just in case you were wondering…a police officer has jurisdiction, the ability to do their job, throughout the state and isn’t limited by arbitrary boundaries with the exception of tribal lands. We continually receive correspondence from people still witnessing the helter skelter headlong disorderly haste of day to night staffing crisis of ASUPD. Every shift involves officers depleting satellite campuses in order to appear fully staffed in Tempe, the largest campus. What a fucking joke.
  11. …how can a police department who cannot cover minimum staffing for simple patrol year after year be expected to handle your sexual assault case with any competence?
  12. …you discover your rights as a victim pale in comparison to ASU public relations and image because every administrator who works at the university becomes another line of defense for the criminal because they want victims to go away and not affect the false crime statistical record propped up by the administration and it’s lapdog police department heads?
  13. …maybe having Satan as a mascot for the university isn’t such a great thing afterall?

But of course the president of the Arizona State University cares about sexual assaults right? Wrong.

Dr. Crow on Title IX & rape culture…

As evidenced by the following transcript, Dr. Crow is not familiar with Title IX, nor does he know what specific options/”pathways” students have if they are sexually harassed or raped at ASU.

On December 2, Sun Devils Against Sexual Assault attended the “Changing the Face of Higher Education” town hall conversation with Arizona State University President Dr. Michael Crow. SDASA founder/survivor Jasmine Lester asked Dr. Crow about ASU’s violations of Title IX and the administration’s enabling of professors who sexually harass and assault students on Study Abroad trips.

Under Title IX, “schools are required to adopt and publish a grievance procedure outlining the complaint, investigation, and disciplinary process for addressing sex discrimination, sexual harassment, and sexual violence occurring within educational programs. This process should address discrimination perpetrated by students, employees, or third parties” (Know Your IX).

As evidenced by the following transcript, Dr. Crow is not familiar with Title IX, nor does he know what specific options/”pathways” students have if they are sexually harassed or raped at ASU. All he knows is that when a victim comes forward, there’s another side of the story; questioning a rape victim’s credibility is rape culture.

Transcript:

Jasmine Lester: Why didn’t you answer my question about Title IX?
Michael Crow: Because I didn’t read the question. There were about 35 questions. So, what’s the question?
JL: ASU has a history of violating Title IX, right? You know about that?
MC: Well, I mean, that’s your opinion.
JL: My opinion? It’s documented. You guys have had lawsuits filed against you, you’ve had lots of complaints about how you violated [Title IX], I have lived experience of my rights being violated by the administration at ASU, so I’m wondering what you’re doing, or if you even care about students.
MC: Well, I wouldn’t ask questions where you make presumptive statements like that.
JL: I’m asking you a question, not for your analysis of my question.
MC: I can answer however I want.
JL: So, you don’t care?
MC: I can answer you however I wish.
JL: I know you can, but I’m wondering if you will answer a question and talk, straight-forward, about students who are suffering under your administration.
MC: Yeah, so students who are suffering have various pathways to remedy.
JL: What is one such pathway?
MC: There are multiple pathways. You can make a charge against another person.
JL: What happens when the university investigates that [charge] and the university is biased?
MC: Then you can ask for another judgement.
JL: Are you telling me to file a lawsuit?
MC: No, no. But you have other remedy pathways, and so the remedy pathways that you have access to are multiple.
JL: Okay.
MC: And they are, uh, at various levels of engagement.
JL: Okay, and can we talk about a system that creates bad experiences for students, and faculty who tend to blame victims more than support them? Is there anything that you, your university, your people, are doing to combat that? It’s a problem across all universities, not just ASU–
MC: Every faculty member that has been involved–
JL: –so I’m just wondering. There is a problem. You can say that’s just my opinion, but there is a problem. I have a lived experience and you’re telling me that that’s my opinion. It’s not. And you, as the president of the university, have a responsibility to me as an alum, as a staff, as a human being, to protect my rights and not to violate them.
MC: Yeah, and you have multiple ways to protect your rights.
JL: But you’re not saying what those are. And you’re not saying what you, as someone in power, is doing to help people like me and people who are too afraid to speak out.
MC: Well, I mean, you have a point relative to people who won’t speak out.
JL: Okay.
MC: And so, uh, it’s important that people do speak out and avail themselves of the rights that they have.
JL: But what does that mean, though? I filed a complaint, ASU treated me like shit. I continue to speak out, you keep treating me like shit. So what else can I do other than attack the university that raised me? I’m trying to find a way–I would rather work with you guys than against you, you know? I should not, as an alum, have to work against my university not to attack me and not to attack students like me.
MC: I don’t know of anyone that’s attacking you.
JL: You don’t? I could send you a lot of emails. We could have a meeting. You know my dad [former administrator]…
MC: What I do know, is that where we know that there has been misbehavior by a faculty member, those faculty members have been sanctioned or dismissed.
JL: What about the ones who are leading Study Abroad trips this summer? I know there are those leading Study Abroad trips this coming summer.
MC: Then you should make charges against those people.
JL: But I’ve been told by your Title IX Coordinator that I’m not allowed.
MC: You’re allowed to do anything you want.
JL: Can you tell your Title IX Coordinator to actually know what Title IX is? Instead of running me and other students through crap?
MC: I’m not really big on sarcasm, so…
JL: This isn’t sarcasm, this is serious.
MC: So you can detail each of the points.
JL: Alright.
MC: And you can identify each of those points, and there’s multiple levels of engagement, if you don’t find satisfaction with Officer A or Officer B, then make sure that ultimately…you have to seek remedy.
JL: Yeah, and I’ve been doing that for the past four years and it’s been terrible because the university wont work with me, it only attacks me and protects its faculty.
MC: Well, I actually know the list of faculty that don’t work at ASU any longer for whatever misbehavior.
JL: Ok. Do you want a list of the ones that do work here still? Because I’ll give you that list.
MC: Yes, and then you have to be able to stand behind that list.
JL: I will stand behind that list, like I have been standing behind [it] and you’ve been ignoring it. The only way that I’ve been able to talk to you is to confront you like this.
MC: You’re talking about me, personally? I’ve been ignoring you?
JL: I’ve emailed you before because we have been at another forum [Feb 2012 – click for transcript] addressing these issues with you, where you said you wanted people like me to email you. I did and I never got a response. I was just sent back to the same faculty member, the Title IX Coordinator, who had [also] been harassing me. So, whatever you’re trying to do, it’s not working, and I want to know what you’re trying to do to make it work.
MC: So, I don’t know that this is the forum to talk about your specific case and I don’t know that much about your particular case, but the point here is that if you have beliefs that there are multiple individuals involved in inappropriate behavior, well it’s, that’s the way that it works…
JL: Then what?

[Crow is asked to pose for photos]

JL: Would you like to have a meeting about this? Because I would love to meet with you…
MC: You’re meeting with me right now.
JL: I mean like an official meeting.
MC: This is an official meeting. I don’t have any unofficial identities.
JL: So, are you saying that the next time I want to talk to you I have to come to an event like this?
MC: No, I’m not saying that at all. We’re having a discussion right now.
JL: But it’s being cut short because people are trying to pull you away for pictures.
MC: Yes, but I mean, the point is that you have to pursue things until you get a final adjudication. There are processes, there are procedures, whatever they are.
JL: So, letting you know, the head of a huge university, that there are problems, is not one of those pathways?
MC: By letting me know that there are problems, is a pathway, which means I can go back and ask people what’s going on.
JL: I hope that you do.
MC: I will. But the point you have to understand is that in all of these things, whatever they are, there might be people that don’t agree with your views, and I don’t mean me.
JL: Well, of course there are people who disagree with my views.
MC: No, I mean there might be people that don’t agree with your statements of fact. Because there are their rights to have a statement of fact, also. And so that’s the process, which is very complicated.
JL: I know how complicated.
MC: The adjudication process. It’s a very complicated process, and so when you get into these situations, then you say one thing–not you, personally, but one person says one thing, another person says another thing, another person says another thing, another person says another thing–which of those people is accurate?
JL: And that’s what I brought up earlier with the victim-blaming. I’m aware of the process, I’m also aware of biases in the process and flaws within the system, that don’t really allow this to be an objective process. If you have a student accusing a professor who’s well-renowned, there’s going to be one viewpoint that’s going to be sort of valued more by the university–
MC: No.
JL: But there has been. And I am witness, testimony, that there has been.
MC: Just because you say it [happened] doesn’t make it so.
JL: Just because I say I had an experience, doesn’t make it so?
MC: What I’m saying is that just because you say it–

[Sadly, our recording got cut short because iPhones.]

Transcript of SDASA’s similar conversation with ASU HR Kevin Salcido coming soon.

Clearly there is much work to be done at ASU. Email SunDevilsASA@gmail.com to get involved in our Title IX complaint.

We have had a flurry of comments lately about featuring this issue and we apologize for not getting to this very grave issue sooner. It certainly is one that is close to our hearts and needs to be exposed.


 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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15 thoughts on “You Can’t Polish A Turd! The Arizona State University Police Dept’s Innexcusable Record of Failure on Sexual Crimes, The latest feint from the Arizona State University Michael Crow Administration!

  1. JustTheFacts says:

    The fact the police department released the same number for crime statistics for consecutive years is more than coincidence. Besides outright lying to the federal government, it further illustrates the duplicity of overlapping tiers of university administration to make a fantasy appear as a reality. The re-victimization of sexual assault survivors by the University is truly outrageous and a shameful practice for anyone claiming to have the student’s best interests at heart.

    P.S. Thank you for opening the comments section back up!

    • yurhuckleberry says:

      Shameful record of deceit with the public, the Arizona State University community, and last but not least the United States Federal government.

  2. Twocents says:

    How can they operate a police department relying on the publicity of a poor record over actual performance?

  3. Embudo says:

    Reading the Jasmine Lester and Michael Crow transcript was very disturbing.

    Hopefully one day the sexual assault survivors will get justice and those individuals that failed them will be held accountable.

  4. DL500unit says:

    With a nearly overnight replacement of the entire detectives or investigative wing, that’s not what you do when everything is running as expected.

  5. ShortimeASUofficer says:

    I’m overjoyed by the fact I escaped that sinking ship department and those overfed fucking morons never sabotaged my career like they did to other officers. Shameful.

    • WheresMy907 says:

      That’s one hell of an accomplishment. They have hurt 100’s of officers and their families with their record of lies and games.

    • Master of Mall Cops says:

      Good job! It was the smartest career decision you’ll ever make.

  6. DontLOLmeJP says:

    How many times does ASUPD have to put spin on an issue and not address the problem? Spend time, money, and resources on anything but the problem seems to be the credo.

    You would think the largest university in the nation would take public safety seriously, but clearly that’s not the case when your police department is primarily staffed with supervisors that don’t want to work or many who have no real experience beyond Mall Cop Inc.

    Ask the Sun Devil’s Against Sexual Assault group how they feel about this pathetic show of…meaningless fluff. It’s not like everyone in the department doesn’t allready know about the historic lack of training for our people.

    We can afford to send department pets like fucking Speranza to Disney World for training or Katie Fuchtman to Colorado for bike maintenance training as a Sergeant?

    Whose dick got sucked for those perks? The list of expensive state paid junkets goes on without achieving results. That 5 year plan is really working, paying dividends.

    • yurhuckleberry says:

      I have no information on the dicks. If you find any, any information, be sure to let us know. There’s probably a loosely interpretred ASUPD and ASU policy for that!

    • Master of Mall Cops says:

      Department whores get all the perks because performance doesn’t matter for them, where they are nothing happens and when it does they have others who can do the job in their stead. It makes one hell of an impression on new officers, so good that 4,5, or more are testing with other agencies at any given time.

  7. yurhuckleberry says:

    Word on the street says ASU Police Chief Michael Thompson and his command are running scared like the yellow-bellied low lifes they are and making stupid mistakes on simple issues. What happens why the gravy train runs out of gravy?

    This patch is an insult to the victims who have become revictimized by Crow and his stooges. It’s equivalent to a murderer sending their victim’s family a get well card from prison.

  8. WheresMy907 says:

    Maybe the Arizona State University Police Department could have spent this public relations money on actually training their detectives? Leave the land of make believe policing and take action on real public safety issues for a change.

    Combine the patch money wit the money they are paying former ASUPD Chief John Pickens to be in their silent accomplish nothing made up job, who has NO RECORD OF HAVING ACCOMPLISHED ANY WORK, but is making $155,000 a year on the backs of taxpayers for 2 years at a cost of $310,000 + the cost of benefits, retirement, health insurance etc.

    Keeping John Pickens silent with pay for doing nothing in his made up job is more important to the Arizona State University Michael Crow administration than training ASU police detectives to adequately do their job, the department to hire more officers, anything but fattening Pickens’s corrupt legacy.

    The man spends a lot of time hanging out at Apple Bees off of Rural Rd flirting with the waitresses!

    • Master of Mall Cops says:

      Why train detectives when you can just buy patches, pins, stickers, toys, stress balls, challenge coins, or the other junk they pedal to pretend they are a fully functioning police department more than in name only.

  9. Master of Mall Cops says:

    If the group, EVAW International, actually knew the record of ASUPD’s sexual crimes they wouldn’t be handing ASU Police MIchael Thompson anything for commissioning those teal, as you say, Clown patches and other gimmicks instead of real police work and earning a good record. Look at this article:

    https://asunow.asu.edu/20170412-asu-police-chief-honored-sexual-assault-awareness

    You can see it on his face, the look a man gets right before he gets kicked in the balls for being a buffoon.

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